Yes, this conversation of being saved, or as some would call it ...salvation.

What is it that we feel we want to be saved from??

Those who fear each day, and see no end in sight from the constant torment ...they have no problem answering this question.

And they often receive the Good News ...of Jesus being their salvation.

Not everyone believes this, I know ...but, for those who do believe Jesus is our salvation, some people still believe you don't have to know that Jesus died for our sins. Yes, some believe His death alone covers us all, and that we don't have to know Him at all.

Yet, if that was the case ...then Jesus could have died before any of the apostles were drawn to follow Him, and He wouldn't have had to have any followers.  And furthermore, all of the apostles lived and died in vain, if this is your view on things.  And with that view alone, Jesus could have died at the beginning of time, not wait several thousand years.

Also, I did mention that the question of what Jesus died for ...does seem to be a question some people ask.  And the usual answer is, that Jesus died for our sins.

But, yes, we do even have difficulty at times defining what sin is ...and we believe we have the discretion to decide what it is, so it can change over time.

We often list sins ...at least we feel safe to mention the ones that we feel we all agree upon.  But, sin is not a fearful condition where we feel the urgent necessity to distance ourselves from others whom we feel our ideologies are incompatible with.  We are all sinners ...and we should all feel the urgency to somehow move in a direction that at least aims to curb the addictive nature of sin.

Sin is not how distant or separated we feel we are from others (though it can include this divisive approach) ...but rather, sin is merely our separation from God.  Sin is going against what God clearly has stated.